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Underneath the Numbers
Wednesday, May 20, 2009

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Wayne Shepherd

Wayne Shepherd:  Are there really 45 to 47 million Americans without health insurance coverage?  This is The Public Square® with Dave Zanotti. I'm Wayne Shepherd. And Dave, that number gets thrown about a lot, doesn't it?

Dave Zanotti:  It might be one of the greatest propaganda tools of modern time.

WS:  Really?

DZ:  Oh it's been repeated, and repeated, and repeated, and repeated, by people who want Americans to believe that there's this huge number of people who are being left out, maybe even dying in the streets.

WS:  The numbers don't add up that way really though, do they?

DZ:  Well they really don't, Wayne. And I want to tell you that there are some things going on, I think people are going to want to pay very close attention to.  Now we can't get in to all of it right this minute.  Some of the information is on our website and a great deal more will be in our longer format broadcast.  But I've got to tell you a story.  As we've tackled these charts and numbers, and we have the data.  The numbers are split up.

WS:  Yeah I saw you pouring over some numbers today.

DZ: And the numbers come from the Kaiser Foundation, but they get their numbers from the Census Bureau.  So we're breaking these numbers out.  And we have some fascinating discoveries for you.  But one of the things that we discovered when we started to back track these numbers, is we went to the Kaiser Foundation, one of the most reputable sources of this data in the country, and we asked them, "You get your numbers from the Census Bureau.  How do they collect the data on people who are uninsured? How do they find out?"  And do you know what they told us?

WS:  No.

DZ:  "We don't know exactly. Call them." 

WS:  Oh no. Oh boy.

DZ:  It's indicative of what's going on here.  It's not that the numbers aren't real or that the people aren't there.  It's the fact that everybody assumes or presumes that they're being told hard data.  But there is so much underneath the numbers that people need to get to.

WS:  Get the straight scoop on universal health care problems.  Thanks for joining us on The Public Square®

Underneath the Numbers - May 20th, 2009

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